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Post by ThePlasticJedi on Jan 29, 2006 15:29:13 GMT -5
Here's version 3's update, the now fabulously accurate T-16! OOooOOOooh! Vesion 1 Gallery now public: HereVersion 2 Gallery now public: hereVersion 3 Gallery when public: hereTPJ P.S: When you only gave me a 2/5 that was rather insulting
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Steven329
The Almighty
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Post by Steven329 on Jan 29, 2006 15:35:19 GMT -5
Rating: rate3 Comment Needs more work and time. Try to make it bigger.
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Post by dyip_90 on Jan 29, 2006 19:05:40 GMT -5
Good work! That shape really is the style of the T-16.
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Post by J1A3L5 on Jan 29, 2006 20:53:13 GMT -5
Definitely recognizable!
However, I dislike the choices you made in constructing it. It would flow better if you stuck to either a plate-construction of brick-construction for the three wings. The upright wing looks really funny with half and half. Also the red line where the SNOT numbers don't quite match draws too much attention to itself.
It's a great start, but could really do with a rebuild and some more consistant building techniques being used. Personally, I'm not a fan of this "house of plates" construction that many Star Wars sets and MOC's feature lately; I much prefer bricks and SNOT. It's all personal opinion.
Keep at it!, -Jail.
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Post by ThePlasticJedi on Jan 29, 2006 22:22:54 GMT -5
Steven: The first version was way too big and the second is about right.
Dyip: Thanks!
Jail: I understand your opinion, however, because I lack the bricks I was forced to use plates for the slope, I am pleased with the way it turned out.
I have updated my T-16 with a windscreen so look forward to new pics!
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Post by J1A3L5 on Jan 29, 2006 22:42:21 GMT -5
Hmm, I'm not sure if either totally finds the balance for the wing height. The first is definitely ridiculously tall, but the second one looks a little but too stubby. I think another brick or two higher might be in order!
I understand no bricks: But no slopes to do it upright either? That's the whole problem with sets these days! Too few plain parts!
How about the big belly gun to blast womp rats with?
This does remind me of the official set. It was pretty meh, but I liked the figure.
-Jail.
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Post by ThePlasticJedi on Jan 30, 2006 10:29:40 GMT -5
My new version has a windscreen, the original T-16s do not have the gun on the bottom, it was added later on. The fin might be a bit stuppy now, I guess. I do not have enough of the 2 studs wide, 3 bricks high slopes to do the fin the way that I wanted to. However I am VERY pleased with my latest update and pics will come soon. It is now, by far, the most accurate minifig scale T-16 skyhopper that I have seen. I may end up attaching the gun on the bottom and will try my damdest to make the fin just a little bigger. Thank you for your comments Jail and new pics to come tonight!
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Post by Jamit on Jan 30, 2006 12:01:03 GMT -5
I like Version 2 better then the first one. However, the tor of Version 2 needs to look less junkie.
2/5
+15 Bricks
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Post by ThePlasticJedi on Jan 30, 2006 20:12:32 GMT -5
Done'd!
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Post by Jamit on Jan 30, 2006 20:47:31 GMT -5
Its much better now. But the top could still use some work.
3.5/5
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Post by J1A3L5 on Jan 30, 2006 21:49:35 GMT -5
That's a really interesting solution for the canopy. If nothing else, it's unique. It leaves a few too many gaps for my taste, but it definitely works. About other T-16's? Check out this one. There's also this one, but it seems a bit large even if it does contain a minifig. I do know there's been at least one UCS-type version done quite impressively. I think the idea canopy solution would to find a piece that can cover each side individually. Such as one of these one each side: Also, using an angular-styled cockpit can allow you to butt the pieces right up against it, leaving no gaps surrounding it. -Jail. P.S. I think someone calling their own model "best ever," and complaining about people's honest opinions is "rather insulting"...
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Post by ThePlasticJedi on Jan 31, 2006 10:47:43 GMT -5
Yes, Ive seen boses' but it has really short wings and shows the underbelly on its fin plate. The other one is hardly to scale. I do not have that windscreen that you posted. I was stating that it is the most to scale minifig T-16 that I've seen, I have no doubts that there are UCS versions comparibly more accurate but they aren't to minifig scale and there are probably better minifig scale versions that I haven't seen. I am sorry that you find my T-16 so crappy . This is why I feel I haven't made a good impression, oh and using rating scales, IMHO, is an act of laziness.
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Post by J1A3L5 on Jan 31, 2006 20:41:50 GMT -5
Hi,
I have nothing against you or your T-16. I don't feel you've made a bad impression, nor a good impression. I don't consider your T-16 "crappy"; I just feel it could use improvement. I was merely pointing out other similar MOC's which you could get ideas from.
If you have a problem with me, contact me in email or PM. If you have a problem with people responding honestly, and trying to be constructive, then I suggest saying so in your post, or keeping the MOC's to yourself.
I don't see a reason to get defensive, nor get angry sounding. I totally agree that plain ratings aren't the best, but they're fine if accompanied by a reason, whether it's good or bad.
It's your MOC. If you're happy with it, then that's the important part.
-Jail.
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Post by ThePlasticJedi on Jan 31, 2006 21:47:38 GMT -5
Thanks, I spose. I think I am going to leave now though. This forum has an atmosphere that I don't find too appealing. The conversations are not in my interest and I really feel like an outsider. You can go ahead and disregard my 20 posts.
Adios
TPJ
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Post by TheQ on Feb 1, 2006 6:47:40 GMT -5
Hmm.. I don't mean to offence, but from what I can see, the LAML is pretty "nice community". The key of the LAML is that everyone know everyone whether as in the larger communities often have the feel of the "city". No-one particularly cares what you do there and you can expect MUCH more "Cool", "Wow", "It sucks" and "Bleh" posts there can here. Other thing is communities based on certain theme. Classic Space and Classic Castle are the most well-known and the FBTB is best Star Wars themed board there is. ----------------------*end of Rant*---------------------------------------------- Okay, about the T-16. The basic shape is easy to reconise, much similar as the "real thing". Still, I wouldn't call this "best ever" (general advice, never say your creation is best simply because people get annoyed by that). The lower wings are rather stumby and, like Johnnie said, the upmost wing looks rather odd since the front has studs, the end hasn't. The cockpit unit is pretty nice and the window really makes it good. Still, I have a feeling that the minifig needs more air. Possible solution for the lower wings is using a technique that I have used couple of times. If you are intested, PM or post underthis and I will tell more about it. To give you some info about it, the technique involves Plate 1 x 2 with Handle, Plate 1 x 1 with Clip Horizontal and two Plate 1 x 1 with Clip Light. It is very basic but VERY strong. -Q
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